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    Re: 416 clone in sealed enclosure

    Quote Originally Posted by les winter View Post
    Old Guy: I taped off the back vent; the recone kit came with a vented dust cover.
    I wonder if you could find an expandable rubber plug at the hardwares store? I would think that tape would give and move a bit like a cone.
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    Re: 416 clone in sealed enclosure

    Quote Originally Posted by GM View Post
    So they used the GPA kit listed on their website? Speaker Exchange | Altec 416-8A DIY Recone Kit
    That's very cool that you can buy all the stuff to put real cones in your self. With the spider pre attached. Anyone done this? I had all the parts from GPA, but sold them to one of our members some time ago. Along with the baskets. MattVandyke, not sure if he ever had them done or not.

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    Re: 416 clone in sealed enclosure

    Quote Originally Posted by les winter View Post
    HI GM.


    Old Guy: I taped off the back vent; the recone kit came with a vented dust cover.
    Ah- then forget what I said. My only experience with one set reconed this way, a solid cap was substituted.
    Your neighbors called. They like your music.

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    Re: 416 clone in sealed enclosure

    Maybe I'll put a piece of masonite. I'll report back. It will take some time. I'm tracking down a leak that's giving me a double hump impedance curve.

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    Re: 416 clone in sealed enclosure

    Quote Originally Posted by les winter View Post
    Hi Earl.
    I used the DATS system from Parts Express to make the measurements. I used the test box method for the Vas.
    The recone kit came from the Speaker Exchange in Tampa.
    Thanks Les ,

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    Re: 416 clone in sealed enclosure

    Quote Originally Posted by RonSSS View Post
    That's very cool that you can buy all the stuff to put real cones in your self. With the spider pre attached. Anyone done this? I had all the parts from GPA, but sold them to one of our members some time ago. Along with the baskets. MattVandyke, not sure if he ever had them done or not.

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    Re: 416 clone in sealed enclosure

    Good deal. I did the same with my 8c's. JMAC has done Altecs since I was a kid, Ron's father owned the shop then.

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    Re: 416 clone in sealed enclosure

    OK, so I got one of these monsters put together. Stuffed pretty well, the Q comes in at 0.75. Sounds pretty good in my shop.

    The GPA 902 is a little hot. I need to pad it down a bit. I figure an lpad at the tweeter to be 4 ohms in series and 8 ohms across to give me a 6 db loss. Any other suggestions?
    thanks.

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    Re: 416 clone in sealed enclosure

    I'd go for a small amount of adjustment by using a variable resistor for the 4 ohms, or a fixed resistor in series with a variable resistor so you can tweak the horn level easily.

    Quote Originally Posted by les winter View Post
    OK, so I got one of these monsters put together. Stuffed pretty well, the Q comes in at 0.75. Sounds pretty good in my shop.

    The GPA 902 is a little hot. I need to pad it down a bit. I figure an lpad at the tweeter to be 4 ohms in series and 8 ohms across to give me a 6 db loss. Any other suggestions?
    thanks.

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    Re: 416 clone in sealed enclosure

    Normally a bypass cap around it is required to tonally balance it out in the extreme HF, though may be a waste in a shop app.

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